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February 10, 2012, 04:24:36 PM
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« on: April 03, 2010, 04:16:43 PM »
It's a '69 Mk3. I think the commission number is FDU9941, but it could be PDU9941. I can sort that out. Trim 11. Paint 32. I'm still sorting out title issues. I got it for free. Basically a high school class shop program that was discontinued. I'm not going to spend any money until this is sorted out.

I do have a couple of questions.

All the manuals I have indicate dual Stromberg carbs. This one has a single carb. I can deal with it either way, but is this a US adaptation? I can deal with it, but I'd like to know. It's all about cfm so it doesn't really matter to me as long as the intake manifold is clean.

As I tear it down it looks like it has a couple of modifications from factory original. It has headers and a different cam. It has also been bored out a bit. Each piece will be measured.

What are your thoughts?

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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2010, 07:37:57 PM »
Chet, I think there's at least one digit missing == perhaps an initial "3" or "4" --as well as a final "L", as I'm pretty sure the 1969 US-model Spitfire began around FDU 31254 L. The 1968 and earlier Mk3 Spitfires in the US. were FD (no "U").

As for the engine, original specification would have been dual SU HS2 carburetors (not Stromberg); the single Stromberg CD150 came in with the US 1970 model year. There's a good chance your engine is not the original, but the engine serial number could confirm that.

Joe Curry's International Triumph Spitfire Database has a section for the Mk3 at:

http://members.cox.net/spitlist/Mk3.htm

[Interestingly enough, there is a "FD  39941 L" (no "U") listed, but the color stated is yellow. It could be a repaint, but most likely it's not your car.] Is there a body number on the car? It would be on a painted plate below the commission plate, and it would read xxxxx FC.

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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2010, 08:34:42 PM »
There is a final L. I didn't know that it was important. I thought it was a '69 because it still has the chrome trim on the bonnet and the commission plate says that it complies with US rules for Jan 1 1969.

The only experience I've had with side draft carbs were Strombergs, so I made an assumption. That's probably mostly making an ass of me. As soon as I hump the car out to the middle of the shop I'll begin to sort out more details.

There is a small plate riveted below that has 24207 FG stamped on it. I'm not sure what that means either. I'll dig around and see if I can read the casting on the engine block. I've got old eyes but I'll get it.

It looks like it was painted school bus yellow sometime later. Everything _not_ exposed to the sky is red.

I wold upload a photo of the badges just ahead of the drivers side door, but I can't seem to reduce them to a small enough size and still end up with anything legible. I'm working on it.

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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2010, 11:25:01 AM »
I found the engine number, maybe one of you guys can tell me a little more about it, or direct me to a knowledge base somewhere. Stamped into the block near the number 4 spark plug is the following number.

FP29941UCF
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2010, 03:41:14 PM »
I found a site from Spitfire and GT6 magazine that seems to indicate that this block is from an MG Midget and manufactured to California regulations. I will learn more once I tear it apart, but could this have been a factory original? Was this in any way common? Did the previous owner swap it out? It was raced, so anything is possible.

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2010, 07:23:26 PM »
The red everywhere there isn't yellow sounds right; your paint code 32 is signal red. The FP engine undoubtedly was swapped in at some point. Most notably, this would be a 1493cc ("1500") engine, where the original would've been the "FE" series 1296. Unfortunately, I don't have any solid references, but the FG body number is probably about right for the 1969 model year. It still leaves a bit of a puzzle over the full commission number, though. And it could be a coincidence, but there is FDU39941L listed on the Database (link in previous post) that says "yellow" for color and is (was) in Citrus Heights, CA.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2010, 08:37:58 PM »
Quote from: herald948 on April 04, 2010, 07:23:26 PM
Tit could be a coincidence, but there is FDU39941L listed on the Database (link in previous post) that says "yellow" for color and is (was) in Citrus Heights, CA.
It's not a coincidence. I had registered it on the site and that is where I live.
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