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Blake Discher
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« on: June 14, 2009, 07:54:53 AM »

The Vintage Triumph Register has been a long time supporter of the team.net Triumph hobbyist listserves run by Mark Bradakis and continues to support Mark's efforts to help the community share information.  Recently, several people have written me to let me know of issues in receiving list mail. While VTR supports the lists, it does not operate them; they were created by Mark and continued to be owned and administered by Mark.

I am posting this note in VTR's own forum to provide an easily referenced reply to the inquiries to the people asking about team.net status.  If I get additional information from Mark, I will amend this posting.

Several list members, all with AOL email addresses indicate they can post but not receive messages. This would tell me it is an AOL problem, not a team.net problem.  AOL is filtering the mail that comes INTO its servers, identifies AutoX mail as spam, and blackholes it.

An excerpt from a mailing information website:

Problem 5 - Mailing Lists: Because Internet mailing lists involve sending a single message to a lot of email addresses, they come dangerously close to unsolicited bulk email, a scourge of the Internet. It can be very difficult for a computer to tell what is a valid mailing list, which the recipient might be interested in, and what is unwanted commercial email. If a mailing list server sends too much mail in too short a time to a number of AOL members, AOL will consider it questionable and delete it.

Solution: The mailing list owner should ensure that their subscriber list is current and properly maintained. If this doesn't work, the mailing list server administrator should reconfigure their server to deliver messages to AOL more slowly. If this doesn't work, the administrator (preferably not the list owner, however) can try contacting AOL at <postmaster@aol.com>, and asking that their mailing list server be exempted from AOL's limitations. However, this recourse should only be used if the first two solutions, which are both signs of responsible administration, don't work.

That is from: http://www.massmailsoftware.com/ezine/past/2003-05-28.htm

What is likely happening is this...  AutoX sends ALL AT ONCE thousands of emails when someone makes a post.  That's what any sort of listserve software is designed to do.  Probably there are hundreds of AUTOX subscribers using AOL.  AOL sees the same message coming in for hundreds of it's recipients, deems it spam, and blackholes (deletes without sending) the message.  The same thing happens when we send a VTR eUpdate out to our members.  Some AOL people get it, some don't.

A rather simple solution to the problem would be to obtain a gMail address from Google, http://www.gmail.com, and use it for list traffic.  It appears that gMail users are receiving list traffic normally.

If anyone has suggestions, kindly comment in this forum or email me directly.

Wishing you safe motoring,

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Blake J. Discher, President
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2009, 09:22:28 PM »

Blake, et.al.: Hopefully Mark won't mind my reposting excerpts of a message he sent to one of the Team.Net lists earlier today:

"I believe that the issues with AOL and other such entities regarding blocking
email from Team.Net has been resolved, and effected addresses should be back
in current status. ...
 
In case you are wondering, the problem was with reverse DNS. Basically
every computer has a name and an address. If you give a name to a domain
name server, you get back an address. That is required for a computer to
work on the network. What ISN'T required is giving an address and getting
back a name. In practice, though, most everyone has it set up. So the AOL
mail server sees a message from autox.team.net, address x.x and does a
reverse lookup on x.x and gets x.x.frobble.in-blah. That is not autox.team.net
so it assumes the message is spam and chucks it into the bit bucket. In truth
there is more to it than that, the name to number matching is not 1 to 1.
aol.com is a LOT more than just one computer at one address. And even
the team.net server also takes care of other domains like britishmotorclub.org
and baileysautomotive.com and utahlotusmuseum.com and such. But that
is beyond the scope of this message, I'm sure many folks have already given
up reading this far.
 
It was working fine for years, but when I switched ISPs last month and got
a new IP address, the new ISP did not properly set up the reverse lookup.
Should be fixed now.
 
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