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Erin
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« on: March 04, 2008, 04:41:39 PM »

My father has two Triumphs, a TR4A (66) and a Tr4 (63). Both were his brothers, and hopefully will be mine someday. He is having a hard time parting with them. Not because he plans on doing anything with them... but he thinks they will be a money pit and are unsafe on todays road...

If anyone has any advice, especially on road safety etc., I would appreciate the input.
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donbmw
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 08:33:09 PM »

I have and 59 TR3A that has been on the road for 10 years now. I feel just as safe in it as I do when on my motorcycles. These cars were not made to todays safe standards. But this would not stop me from drive my TR3 where I would want to go.

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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2008, 01:49:20 AM »

He has two points .  First about the money pit. Yes the parts for these cars are high and are going up all of the time.  But once the car is running unless you are someone into concours restoration, you should be able to use it without constant repairs and expensive parts.  But the really good side is that they are simple enough that most people can do their own repairs and replace parts, saving a ton of money in the process.  Grin Grin  But then you may also want to compare the cost of parts for a modern auto with our British parts, probably not a lot of difference in price.
As to the safety I believe that a car is only as safe as the driver.  So if the driver is wild  and unsafe then even the best car isn't going to help a lot.  Drive defensively  and maybe even a bit more defensively if you really believe they are not as good as today cars.  That may just give you the edge  in never having an accident, whether it is your fault or not.  One more point about the safety, there is a lot more steel in these cars than in more modern ones.  Think about that strong box and X frame underneath that body, not to mention that tractor (Massey Fergeson)engine sitting up front.

For me I will continue to drive my TR's as safely as possible and enjoy the hell out of them.
Charley Fitch
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Erin
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2008, 04:47:18 PM »

I agree that the car is only as safe as the driver. My pops is concerned probobly because he has rolled both of the cars. Shocked That may be because of his driving or an outside occurrence. He has only gotten into one other accident in which he got rear ended during traffic. He is being a tough shell to crack. As for parts etc, I already have it all lined up...from a friends father who races old Morgans, has spare parts, is well off and just wants me to get the car on the road.  The TR-4A was the first car I ever drove I have dreamed about it for the past fifteen years and as I am sure you all can understand love it dearly.
It is so hard to look at them in the warehouse (I also work for my father) five days a week Cry
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charley fitch
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2008, 11:45:19 PM »

When I answered you yesterday , it was my practical side speaking.  Later I thought with my emotional side and came up with the statement that you either love these cars or hate them.  Those of us who love them just can't get enough of them.  That must be why I now have a TR3B( which is soon to be passed on to my oldest son), and two TR4's one of which is recently restored and one yet to be restored.  I believe in these cars and have owned a TR for about 30 years now.  Can't say as  I have ever come close to rolling one  however.  And that includes some pretty hard driving on a autocross course.

I wish you the best in trying to turn your Dad around on letting you persue your dream of ownership of a great TR.
Charley Fitch  Grin Roll Eyes
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Erin
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 12:53:59 PM »

Thanks Charlie,
good things are worth waiting for...
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kleykamp
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 08:35:07 AM »

With 30 yrs in auto insurance adjusting, I have seen cars vastly improved in safety equipment. I can assure you, your TR4 is no match for a Ford Expedition running a red light and broad siding you. Later cars have crumple zones, intrusion beams,air bags and thousands of dollars in research and safety improvements. When your car stops your body continues to move at the same speed the vehicle was traveling. Would you rather have your chest hit a soft airbag and collapsable steering column or a hard steering wheel supported by a solid steel shaft. You have no protection in theses cars and are nearly as exposed as if you were on a motorcycle. There is no aftermarket equipment, short of a seat belt, that you can buy to make these cars as safe as technology has made newer cars. Defensive driving...obviously. Accident avoidance is the first step, however, young drivers ( I know you won't like this part) lack the experience and self discipline to be really defensive drivers. Now, If you haven't already stopped reading this, There is no match for the fun and excitement of riding around in a nicely tuned Triumph. I've had them or mg's...sorry..off and on for the 40 years I've been driving. I'm currently working on a TR3 and anxiously awaiting the first drive around the block. I encourage you to listen to your father. Show him you are a responsible driver, work on the TR4 and get it ready for when he decides you are ready to handle the responsibility. Glad to see young people interested in the old classic brits. Signed, Old Fuddy Duddy
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Erin
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2008, 12:36:37 PM »

I agree, defensive driving is a must when cruising in a much smaller vehicle then most others on the road. Thank you for you input.
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Brian Jones
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2008, 02:54:03 PM »

I have and 59 TR3A that has been on the road for 10 years now. I feel just as safe in it as I do when on my motorcycles. These cars were not made to todays safe standards. But this would not stop me from drive my TR3 where I would want to go.



I don't know if you underestimate the safety of your TR, or vastly underestimate the danger of riding your motorcycles. Either way, keep safe!

Brian
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